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Recoil factor of three LCR's

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#1 · (Edited)
You might find this interesting. Here is the recoil factors of three LCR's. Notice the recoil of the 357 is double that of 9mm and 38+P, which by the way are very close in comparison. The 357 has a heck of a lot of recoil for such a small package. I have not shot 38 spec through the LCR, but would imagine it to be very tame as the 9mm which I own is fairly mild. The 38 would be lighter to carry and I wonder how the 22wmr would be for someone that just cannot handle recoil at all. Like my 85 year old mother. I know that Honady has a defense round for the gun and the LCR in this cal. will hold 6 rounds as opposed to 5.

357 19.47 ft-lb - Standard Free Recoil Calculation
9mm 7.27 ft-lb - Standard Free Recoil Calculation
38+P 7.16 ft-lb - - Standard Free Recoil Calculation
22 Mag 0.43 ft-lb - Standard Free Recoil Calculation
327. 7.13 Note, this round is reported to be extremely loud. Be careful.
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#2 ·
Thanks for sharing the recoil info with us. That's great chart that shows three of the most popular rounds all on one chart.
 
#5 · (Edited by Moderator)
I couldn't find a 9mm LCR locally... but was able to trade into a NIB .327) 100 grain Speer Gold Dots as well.
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However I like LCRs so a 9mm version might be in the works for me as well in the New Year.

Diamond Pro LCr grips on order. They worked well on my SP-101 to tame recoil.

 
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I couldn't find a 9mm LCR locally... but was able to trade into a NIB .327)
100 grain Speer Gold Dots as well.
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However I like LCRs so a 9mm version might be in the works for me as well
in the New Year.

Diamond Pro LCr grips on order. They worked well on my SP-101 to tame
recoil.

Congrats on your LCR, I think you are really going to have fun with this revolver. I enjoy shooting and this is one of my "fun guns". Something I just love to take to the range. If you decide that the Like the gun, then you may want to invest in the 9mm as it is so much less expensive to shoot. I even reload some "light" rounds for some friends that are just beginning to shoot. Makes shooting the gun very pleasant. I also love the Diamond Pro. It really does help with recoil. Have fun! Life is good!
 
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I don't your circumstances or want to tell you what to do...but as a retired cop who has seen many things, IMHO an 85 year old that is not already familiar with handguns and the self protection mindset should probably not get one.

Two things come to mind: #1 would/ does she have the mental strength to actually kill someone at 10 feet, and #2 if she not willing to do #1 in a mentally sure short time frame she will have the gun taken away and used on her.
 
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Retired officer here too and also former defensive tactics instructor. That can't be emphasized enough. If you have a gun and are afraid or reluctant to use it, it is so fast and easy for the criminal to take your gun away from you, especially, as is usually the case, if the criminal is bigger and stronger.
 
#8 ·
I would be curious to see those numbers with the 'short barrel' .357 versions out there. I had a good phone conversation with the folks at Corbon about exactly that issue with my .357 LCR. They "recommend" their .38+P DPX, which is tested and optimized for 2" barrel revolvers. .357 has more power, but its benefits are less than optimal below 4" and recovery for followup shots is harder depending on the user. I am curious to test Buffalo Bore's advertised low flash short barrel .357 rounds though.

From their website: BUFFALO-BARNES LEAD-FREE Tactical 357 Mag Low Flash-Short Barrel
125 gr. Barnes XPB @ 1225 fps

Our tactical 357 mag. ammo generates less felt recoil and blast (flash and noise) than our Heavy 357 mag. loads and as such is a better choice for those carrying light weight short barreled revolvers. This is still a full powered 357 mag. load, but allows for faster follow-up shots and greater shooting comfort.
 
#9 · (Edited by Moderator)
I shot my NIB .327 Federal Magnum LCR today. .32 H&R was soft shooting. the 100 gr. Gold Dots were about like a 158 Grain +P with a little zing on the tail end of the recoil. I shot with both earplugs and electronic earmuffs.

I can see why some guys, (esp. older guys) like the .32 H&R Magnum.

I did get a few sticky Gold Dot cases after firing the lead SWC (Federal) .32 H&R Mag, so that might have been the lead acting up.

Given the fact that the .327 Magnum load didn't have nearly the recoil of any Magnums out of my old LCR .357:(

The soon-to-arrive Diamond Pro grips will probably tame the recoil a bit.

All in all, I think that the right .327 Magnum load will serve me well. Having that 6th-shot might be a life-saver for myself or someone else one day:)
 
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I shot my NIB .327 Federal Magnum LCR today.


.32 H&R was soft shooting. the 100 gr. Gold Dots were about like a 158 Grain +P with a little zing on the tail end of the recoil. I shot with both earplugs and electronic earmuffs.


I can see why some guys, (esp. older guys) like the .32 H&R Magnum.


I did get a few sticky Gold Dot cases after firing the lead SWC (Federal) .32 H&R
Mag, so that might have been the lead acting up.


Given the fact that the .327 Magnum load didn't have nearly the recoil of any
Magnums out of my old LCR .357:(






The soon to arrive Diamond Pro grips will probably tame the recoil a bit.


All in all..I think that the right .327 Magnum load will serve me well.
Having that 6th-shot might be a life-saver for myself or someone else one day:)

I can see why Ruger came out with the 327. More evidence of how Smart and Perceptive Ruger is. I have been reading up on the
.32 H&R and it appears to be in line with the 380. in Ballistics and stopping power, but without as much recoil. Maybe a ideal choice for recoil sensitive shooters. For carry the 327 is a powerful round and yes the benefit of being able to have a 6th round chambered speaks for itself. All of this said, the LCR is for me, is a fun little revolver. I love taking it to the range. And I am seriously thinking about getting one in .22.
 
#14 · (Edited by Moderator)
I've actually sold all my .22s and just enjoy shooting the .22 Magnum.
I'd rather carry the .327 Magnum and then have the .22 Magnum for some cheaper practice.

Other than the .22 Magnum having a heavier trigger pull than the other LCRs, it would go great with my .327 and my CZ rifles in .22 Mag.
 
#15 ·
I've actually sold all my .22s and just enjoy shooting the .22 Magnum.
I'd rather carry the .327 Magnum and then have the .22 Magnum for some cheaper practice.

Other than the .22 Magnum having a heavier trigger pull than the other LCRs, it would go
great with my .327 and my CZ rifles in .22 Mag.
Only one thing I see where I would disagree with your statement of 22.lr vs WMR is the cost.My gosh, 22 Mag is expensive as heck. I have a .22 lr with a convertible mag cylinder and have about 1000 rds of mag ammo, but rearely shoot it, because the cost is so dang high to replace it. And Not always easy to find. Even at the lowest price at Walmart when available is around $15.00 for a box. Heck, I can reload 9mm with light rounds a whole lost cheaper about half the cost. I wish 22.mag would get real in cost. It really is a fun round to shoot. Just looking at cost and the cheapest is .22 cents a round. vs 6 cents around for 22. Heck, I can buy new 9mm ammo cheaper.

22 Magnum Ammo - AmmoSpy.net
 
#16 · (Edited by Moderator)
As I no longer reload.

Even at $12.95 for 50 rounds (locally),I do think it would be cheaper to shoot than .327 Magnum.

I usually practice with 3-4 speed loaders or so with Revolvers, then go to my Ruger 1911 in 9mm or my other 9mm or in the past, .45 ACP pistols.

I'm not a volume shooter, but do try to practice at the indoor range once or even twice a week.

A .22 Magnum LCR would be a sweet addition. My wife and the girls would probably love to shoot it as well.
 
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#18 · (Edited by Moderator)
I shot 25 of the Federal 100 gr. Soft Points today with the Diamond Pro gips.

It seemed like it had even more recoil than the Speer 100 grain Gold Dots, and the stock Hogue grips.

I'm still getting sticky extraction, so I guess it's a good thing a person has 6-shots to start with.

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#19 · (Edited by Moderator)
Hi guys.

Reloading is out of the question for me.

I'm hoping that if I do pick up a box or two of the 85 grain A&E that it will be tamer than the 100 grain.

I can see where the 100 grain SP ammo would be ideal for the Blackhawk or .327 GP100.

As I really bought the .327 becuase I wanted a Magnum with less recoil than my old KLCR .357...

The SPEER 100 grain has perfect recoil for, but still a bit spendy@20 bucks for 20 rounds.

Eric @ HBE is making me a LCR holster, so I should be seeing that in 12 weeks or so.

Right now my new sticky Tec-Grip holster from Blackhawk works.

Still, I like that 6th round and the wonderful trigger.

Just need to try to 85 grain and see how that goes.

The local shops also sell the 85 grain Federal JHP for $20 a box of 20. That is interesting as well, but only for carry.

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To me, the .380 's seem surprisingly snappy. Suspect this is due to small gripping surface and light weight. These issues can be modified, but at the expense of concealability.
 
#23 ·
Interesting ballistic comparison of the .357 vs 9mm out of 2" test barrels, probably non-vented. Wonder if this holds true of the LCRs. Foot pounds of energy 357: 200-300. 9mm: 220-330. Ballistics by the inch Ballistics by the inch Both are loaded to 35,000 psi, the 9mm +P is 38,500 PSI. Maybe the shorter 9mm hits max pressure sooner in the short barrel, just guessing. (looks like one link, there's 2)
 
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