What bullet grain weight to use....

What bullet grain weight to use....

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  1. #1 What bullet grain weight to use.... 
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    I know this question has probably been asked a lot but, please help me decide on which is better, more feasible, shoots better/worse between light and heavy.

    I've shot 115 grain target rounds and 147 grain hollow points and couldn't few much difference. I know those have their preference towards light and fast and slow and heavy, but I can't make up my mind between the two. Who knows, maybe I never will.

    Just looking at why y'all choose what you choose.


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    What is most reliable in the gun and what do you shoot best? Anything else is just asking for trouble.

    Questions like this results in heated arguments in the LGS and barbershops across this great land.,
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  3. #3 Re: What bullet grain weight to use.... 
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    Quote Originally Posted by bberg100 View Post
    What is most reliable in the gun and what do you shoot best? Anything else is just asking for trouble.
    If I knew this information I wouldn't have posted the topic. I'm just looking for opinions and why everyone uses what they use.

    Questions like this results in heated arguments in the LGS and barbershops across this great land.,
    Your point?



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    I agree with bberg100.
    I use different wt in different guns In my LCP I have 95gr Critical Defense. In my larger G19 I have 115gr CD. Some can handle the recoil of a heavier wt. and easily recover for a second shot. 95gr in an LCP may be all that someone with smaller hands or arthritis can handle. So that's what it is.
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    For me, accuracy and being able to recover fast for a 2nd or 3rd shot are very important in a SD situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by louchia View Post
    I agree with bberg100.
    In a way I do too but I'm not looking for a battle of opinions simply because what works for one person isn't necessarily gonna work for another person. I realize it's all about personal preference, I'm just simply asking for info about why some choose what and why some choose the other.
    I use different wt in different guns In my LCP I have 95gr Critical Defense. In my larger G19 I have 115gr CD. Some can handle the recoil of a heavier wt. and easily recover for a second shot. 95gr in an LCP may be all that someone with smaller hands or arthritis can handle. So that's what it is.
    For me
    For me, accuracy and being able to recover fast for a 2nd or 3rd shot are very important in a SD situation.
    So in other words, what you're saying is, depending on hand size, strength and possible arthritis, being able to handle more or less a certain amount of recoil depending on the size of pistol is what would base what grain bullet one would use?

    As of now, recoil isn't really an issue. Even with this smaller LC9s. My target shot placement was roughly the same whether I was shooting 115 grain loads or 147 grain loads.

    I guess what I probably should have asked was what would be better for home defense? I know some say a slower bullet with more energy is better and some say the opposite that faster bullets with more velocity is better.

    In my limited experience I think a billet is a bullet that's fired from a gun but with the more advanced technology, does that still hold the same? Does a faster, lighter projectile do more damage than a slower, heavier projectile?



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    As I originally stated: What is most reliable in YOUR gun and what do YOU shoot the best.

    The first thing is the most reliable round in YOUR gun. Two Ruger LC9s may behave differently with the SAME load. If it is not reliable in YOUR gun with YOU shooting it then your gun just became a paperweight. Then you must be able to handle the round in YOUR gun. If YOU can't accurately & repeatedly shoot the "greatest defensive round ever" in YOUR gun then you are hoping the bad guy happens to step into your bullet. I have experienced two folks shooting the same gun, same load with different results.

    As to bullet weight and speed, it has caused more contentious arguments than who is the best pitcher of all time. Everyone has an opinion. If there was a hard and fast fact based rule about it there would not be acres of 9mm ammo shelf space in your LGS. Everyone would use 115 grains at 1250 FPS, or is it 147 grains at 1123 FPS, and it would definitely be a Hornady XTP, or Gold Dot... Ballistic tests continually prove any ammo is better than the competition.

    Keep in mind until recently the 22 LR killed more people in the USA than any other round. Shoot what works for YOU and don't worry about what everyone else does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bberg100 View Post
    As I originally stated: What is most reliable in YOUR gun and what do YOU shoot the best.

    The first thing is the most reliable round in YOUR gun.
    I haven't shot a lot but so far everything I have shot has been reliable, even in my Beretta Storm that I have, with the exception of the 60 grain Liberty Ammunition Civil Defense rounds in the Beretta which is 40 S&W.

    Two Ruger LC9s may behave differently with the SAME load. If it is not reliable in YOUR gun with YOU shooting it then your gun just became a paperweight. Then you must be able to handle the round in YOUR gun. If YOU can't accurately & repeatedly shoot the "greatest defensive round ever" in YOUR gun then you are hoping the bad guy happens to step into your bullet. I have experienced two folks shooting the same gun, same load with different results.
    As far as two LC9s pistols reacting differently to different rounds, I would think there would have to be an issue with one or the other to have different results because they're supposed to be built to exact specs. I would think, anyways. I don't know the first thing about gun manufacturing even in mass-produced guns, which is what I would guess.

    As to bullet weight and speed, it has caused more contentious arguments than who is the best pitcher of all time.
    That's probably because the majority of people that have argued that think that their opinion is fact and trumps everyone else's. That's not what I'm looking for and I would hope that this discussion doesn't go there. As I said in my opening post, I just want to know what people use and why so I can take that information and base what I choose from that.
    Everyone has an opinion.
    You're right, and I'm curious to hear what everyone's is. Again that's the reason for the thread.

    If there was a hard and fast fact based rule about it there would not be acres of 9mm ammo shelf space in your LGS. Everyone would use 115 grains at 1250 FPS, or is it 147 grains at 1123 FPS, and it would definitely be a Hornady XTP, or Gold Dot...
    There's not and there's never going to be. There is far too much out there to make an absolute best. That's not what I'm looking for. Again, I just wanna know what everyone uses and why they use it. Simple as that.

    Ballistic tests continually prove any ammo is better than the competition.
    Maybe I'm wrong but I'm not so sold on ballistics gel tests.

    Keep in mind until recently the 22 LR killed more people in the USA than any other round.
    A 22LR is a very unique round, though. They can ricochet in the body from entering the right spot which where their most damage comes from.

    Just because a 22 can be a lethal little round, that doesn't make it ideal over the majority of the defense rounds on the market.

    Shoot what works for YOU and don't worry about what everyone else does.
    I intend to. But on the contrary, I'm not worried about what everyone shoots. I am just simply curious what they shoot and why.



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    Quote Originally Posted by corneileous View Post
    I know this question has probably been asked a lot but, please help me decide on which is better, more feasible, shoots better/worse between light and heavy.

    I've shot 115 grain target rounds and 147 grain hollow points and couldn't few much difference. I know those have their preference towards light and fast and slow and heavy, but I can't make up my mind between the two. Who knows, maybe I never will.
    Most rounds that meet the same SAAMI specification (all standard pressure rounds, for example, as opposed to standard vs "+P" will feel about the same from the shooter's point of view.

    There's no real way to determine which bullet weight or design is "better" unless you run tests for a specific purpose. The specific purpose(s) to be tested could be things like 1) how tightly the shots hold a group at a specific range, or 2) how the bullets affect a live target (as in for self-defense), or 3) how much muzzle blast and/or flash there is when firing a round, or 4) how "dirty" a particular round is when fired from a specific firearm, etc.

    There are many variables in terminal performance beyond the weight of the bullet being used. The shape of the bullet, the construction of the bullet, and other variables all come into play.
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    Again, I'm not looking what is considered "better". I'm just asking what everyone uses. That's all.


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    Quote Originally Posted by corneileous View Post
    Again, I'm not looking what is considered "better". I'm just asking what everyone uses. That's all.
    Are you not interested in WHY someone would choose a particular bullet type/style/weight in a particular caliber? If you're trying to choose something, I'd think that sort of information would be extremely useful.
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