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Poll: Is the LCP II a safe gun to carry?

This is a discussion on Poll: Is the LCP II a safe gun to carry? within the General LCP Discussion forums, part of the LCP Pocket category; Yep. Common sense is and has always been uncommon. I agree that it's worth having to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous comments to ...

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  • The LCP II's action can be locked by choice; the gun is safe to carry

    2 9.09%
  • The LCP II's action can be locked by choice; the gun is NOT safe to carry

    0 0%
  • The LCP II's action can NOT be locked by choice; the gun is safe to carry

    10 45.45%
  • The LCP II's action can NOT be locked by choice; the gun is NOT safe to carry

    5 22.73%
  • I haven't made up my mind

    5 22.73%
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  1. #51 Re: Poll: Is the LCP II a safe gun to carry? 
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    Yep. Common sense is and has always been uncommon.

    I agree that it's worth having to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous comments to try to save just one more person from making a decision that could put their life and the lives of others in peril. And while it may be true that no gun is completely safe, a gun whose trigger cannot be pulled unless the shooter wants to pull it is clearly safer than a gun whose trigger can be pulled whether the shooter wants to pull it or not. The insanity that exists is that there are actually people out there who would argue against that. Makes me wonder how many of them text and drive at the same time. ;-)
    Last edited by bld522; 03-20-2017 at 10:25 AM.
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  2. #52 Re: Poll: Is the LCP II a safe gun to carry? 
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    Think of it as the warning on the side of a cigarette pack.
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  3. #53 Re: Poll: Is the LCP II a safe gun to carry? 
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    Quote Originally Posted by pennsy View Post
    Think of it as the warning on the side of a cigarette pack.
    I did. As a result, I haven't smoked for decades. Unfortunately, it took me a lot longer to recognize alcohol's warning signs. If I have expertise in anything, it's the power of denial and recovery from it. And I'd be lying if I didn't say it took a metaphorical shot to the gut to wake me up.

    Like I said, common sense is uncommon.
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    Self-defense Rule #1: Time is of the essence!

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  5. #54 Re: Poll: Is the LCP II a safe gun to carry? 
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    Human nature is what it is. That pendulum will take a long time to swing back to the center. Let's face it, we want to shoot targets with our combat pistols and we want to be rewarded with good results. Light triggers lend themselves to these rewards. AD is an adverse reward and hopefully much less common.
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  6. #55 Re: Poll: Is the LCP II a safe gun to carry? 
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    Quote Originally Posted by davevabch View Post
    I wonder if Ruger has issued any warning on this Trigger? Specifically for the LCP ll? Yes, I am a Ruger fan, but have to say that Ruger has Disappointment me with the new model. Really hope they get the option of purchasing the Gen 2 or the LCP ll and give a description of both triggers and the warning for the more dangerous trigger. It would seem to be the right thing to do.
    I can't imagine that happening, Dave. It would expose Ruger to massive litigation. I suspect the decision as to whether or not a gun is "safe" will likely remain within the province of the individual shooter.
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    Self-defense Rule #1: Time is of the essence!

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  7. #56 Re: Poll: Is the LCP II a safe gun to carry? 
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    I'm always amused by the warning sticker on guns with lasers. basically: "don't look in this end"

    So.... If I have a gun w/o a laser its okay to point the gun at my face?
    My wife accused me of being immature.
    I told her to get out of my fort.
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  8. #57 Re: Poll: Is the LCP II a safe gun to carry? 
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    Hmmmm . . . umm . . . well . . .
    Self-defense Rule #1: Time is of the essence!

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  9. #58 Re: Poll: Is the LCP II a safe gun to carry? 
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    "The LCP II's action can be locked by choice; the gun is safe to carry."

    What am I missing here? This question does not compute. "Locked by choice"?
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    This may explain it:

    LCP II accidental discharge???

    To make a long story short, the only way a gun's trigger can be locked "by choice" is if the gun contains a manual safety the shooter can use to lock or unlock it. Otherwise the trigger is self-locking or perhaps more accurately in the case of the Glock-style trigger lever, non-locking.
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    Self-defense Rule #1: Time is of the essence!

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  11. #60 Re: Poll: Is the LCP II a safe gun to carry? 
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    Quote Originally Posted by bld522 View Post
    This may explain it:

    LCP II accidental discharge???

    To make a long story short, the only way a gun's trigger can be locked "by choice" is if the gun contains a manual safety the shooter can choose to lock or unlock. Otherwise the trigger is either self-locking or perhaps more accurately in the case of the Glock-style trigger lever, non-locking.
    Ok, thanks. In that case, I must choose #3.
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