This is a discussion on LCP II accidental discharge??? within the General LCP Discussion forums, part of the LCP Pocket category; Originally Posted by davevabch Yes I believe all guns should not have a safety. Just really dumb to waste so much time to pull it ...
Shucks, who needs a dang safety?
Now hold my beer and watch this!
What is interesting is suppose you are in a bad situation and you quickly have to use another gun. Someone with trained reflexes and memory skills are going to automatically disengage that safety, and the person that did not believe in training with a safety is going to die.
Yes the Ruger American has the option of a safety or not. I think the "Pro" version came a little later. Not sure what Pro means anyway. Professional? Professional what? In my opinion a professional will train with a trigger safety.
And if given the choice why not take a gun with a safety, when it is so simple to not use it if that is the way you would want to go.
I had My LC9S out last night and cleaned it. That trigger is light, I mean really light for a ccw gun. I know it has worked into, around 5lbs or less. Not much preload and a striker fired. Man, for the life of me cannot imagine anyone carrying this gun without a safety. Talk all you want about how great it is to not have a safety but I just have too much experience being around firearms to take that belief. You can make that choice. Better you than me, is the way I look at it. And for God sake, do not even once give me this nonsense that I might forget it is on if the time came to use it. You would have a safer bet that I would not blink if a Bat was coming directly at my face.
Last edited by davevabch; 03-14-2017 at 03:54 AM.
This debate will always be a debate because it's opinion vs. opinion devoid of any real empirical evidence. I speculate that the majority of those who believe in safeties and train with them are people who have owned/carried a 1911 at some point. Those that hate safeties are for the most, Glock fans. I personally don't know anyone who has experienced an ND and I certainly do know people of both beliefs. I have both a 1911 (9mm) and a Glock 17, both are range/HD guns for me. I don't carry either. I do have an LC9s and would not feel as comfortable with a Pro even though I've never heard of a ND with one. I do carry an LCP Custom and don't worry.
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But to many in the experieced gun world, Glock was not the best firearm, and the trigger is unsafe. Now the war starts.
Almost every debate between utilizing a safety or having a safety has been with the Glock firearm. Glock fans came up with every thing but the kitchen sink to tell you that you did not need a safety. Safety was all between your ears. a trigger is a safety, and other slogans that became nauseous to other owners. But the fact is, that people started shooting themselves in the leg with these guns. So much that a "Urban term" became very Popular the "GLOCK LEG" No, not Ruger leg, Smith and Wesson Leg, CZ leg, GLOCK LEG.
Now Glock fans want to tell the rest of the world, that there is no such thing as Glock Leg. But other gun owners are not buying it and that starts a war.
Now what is interesting we have for the first time, a pocket Pistol that is now in the same controversy. The LCP ll. And like the Glock, the trigger safety which is similar to the Glock will be a debate lasting for a long time.
Many Glock fans might come over to Ruger for the New LCP ll. If so, Ruger will make a whole lot of money.
And make no mistake. MONEY IS WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT!
If the LCP II has something to prove, it's that RUGER LEG won't join GLOCK LEG in the urban vernacular. After all, it's one thing to repair a pistol; it's another thing to repair a leg.
Last edited by bld522; 03-15-2017 at 08:59 AM.
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