This is a discussion on Ruger LCP II within the General LCP Discussion forums, part of the LCP Pocket category; Originally Posted by SkipD Fellas, we don't need any more of this sort of stuff. Thanks. Skip - moderator Skip, I agree with you 100%. ...
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I like his vids . Opinions are like a certain body part I won't mention . We all have them and they usually stink .
I followed Nutnfancy for a long time on another forum that isn't gun-related. He's a little overblown for my taste, but his vids are mostly OK. Even when they're not, they've normally got enough entertainment value to make them worth watching.
If you like to watch destruction tests, this guy's a lot of fun too:
I generally like Nutnfancy's no-nonsense reviews. Interestingly he did not mention the "safety factor".
RANGE REPORT THIS AM 3/4 SAT.
I have planned on going to the range this PM, and still will. I had to get a hair cut and had a appointment. I was about 30 min early, so decided to go down to the range store and see if I could feel a Pico, and a Kimber Micro 380. They said they have not had any Pico's in months and they do not carry Kimber's. So I was there at the counter and listening to the sales rep try and sell some lady a small 380. He happened to tell her that they had a Sig 238 over at their ranges in the same store. Wow, Ok, I quickly went over to the range and told the guy to let me try the 238. I bought a box of 380. I did not have much time, and was in a hurry. I noticed he had the New LCP ll. I made a comment and he said I could try it out after the Sig. I told him thanks, Not interested. I did try out the trigger and even he agreed with me that it sucked. Crazy light freeplay.
Well I loaded up the Sig and started shooting quickly. I was in a hurry. HOLY CRAP! This was like riding on a cloud, Right away I knew that these guns are everything they say they are. I had shot them, but that was some time ago. I mean this gun was like shooting a 22.cal. Ok, 25 rounds told me all I wanted to know. Not even trying I was doing great groups. No need to waste ammo. So I went back in and told the range master. OK let me try out the new LCP ll. Quickly went back to the range.
Ok, here we go again. snappy gun. And now the stupid long free play. I shoot the first two rounds way low and left. I knew this trigger and I were not going to be going on another date. I finished up the rest of the box of ammo, and knew I was done with the LCP. Like the difference between driving a car with a power steering and one without.
You can't honestly shoot a Sig 238 and then a LCP and say I want a LCP. That is not real world.
The recoil difference in the two was extremely significant. While I have shot thousand of rounds through the LCP's, I managed to still do well even with the fast shooting and lack of time. I did have about 4 or 5 wild flyers due to the unfamiliarity of the crazy freeplay it the trigger. Man I just hated it. After shooting the 238 which feels so good in the hand with the 9/11 style and the solid steel material, it is just easy to handle. Go from that to the LCP and the LCP feels not cheap, but just not solid.
The LCP did not shoot horrible, it retains the harsh snappy recoil as it's predecessors. It is a gun with practice you can do well. but it is not a "Smooth gun" and you will either like the trigger or hate it.
Is The Sig worth almost double the price? For myself, someone that loves to shoot often YES, for a person that will just get by on a few hundred rounds a year NO. Of course that person should expect to put in a lot of range time to shoot accurately.
The only problem that bothered me with the Sig, was the fact that it was just too easy. It was like shooting a 22.cal with a little kick which made it fun. But it also made me say to myself "Maybe the 380 cartridge is just too anemic." This gun made it feel so light.
So How do I feel? LCP ll will not make it into my future arsenal. And now I am considering the Kimber Micro 9.
By the way, the LCP did give my finger a little bit of pain. Nothing major, and had one malfunction and I will try and show the deformed case from the round. I have no idea what caused that. The sig had One failure due to a dud primer strike. The Sig obviously had been shot a lot and I think maybe it needs a overhaul but did shoot fine in every other way.
This is just my opinion based on quick shooting of 25 rounds through both guns.
Anxiously looking forward to the PM range session with My LCR 9mm and New Boot grip. Odd, but this am there was not one other person shooting. Hoping for the same this afternoon.
On another note. It was really nice to go from Putting a mag into a Sig 238 vs the Ruger LCP. A really solid feel with the Sig.
and to add to the ammo on the rented guns I used, I had to buy their ammo. It felt like a light load. The bad round in the LCP ll can very well be just the ammo.
Sellier & Bellot Ammunition 380 ACP 92 Grain Full Metal Jacket
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