What is the MTBF for the LCP with standard factory ammo?

What is the MTBF for the LCP with standard factory ammo?

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  1. #1 What is the MTBF for the LCP with standard factory ammo? 
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    MTBF/MTTF (Mean Time Between Failure/Mean Time to Failure) is a standard measurement for determining when something with a moving part is likely to fail. Computer hard drives, for example, are rated in terms of MTBF. A gun obviously has moving parts. So it should also be rated in terms of MTBF. Unfortunately, the only people that are likely to know the actual MTBF for the LCP are the engineers that designed it and I don't expect that information to ever be made public. So all we have to go on is anecdotal evidence.

    I've heard of some LCPs failing almost immediately after being taken out of the box and others lasting for thousands upon thousands of rounds. So if someone were to put a gun to your head (figuratively speaking of course), how many rounds of STANDARD VELOCITY FACTORY AMMO would you guess it takes on average before an LCP needs to be repaired/replaced. For purposes of this poll, let's assume you're cleaning and maintaining your LCP regularly. Let's also assume that anything out of the ordinary constitutes a failure. So, for example, a takedown pin backing out of your LCP would be a failure even if you catch it in time to prevent the pistol from malfunctioning and you reinstall it yourself.

    PS: I expressly want to invite folks with AND WITHOUT hands-on experience to vote in this poll. Even if folks have only read about failures and not experienced failures themselves, they still have to make decisions with respect to how long they should expect their LCPs to last. And again, anecdotal evidence only goes so far.
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    A take down pin should be considered part of routine maintenance. It takes a constant pounding until the stress forces it to break. I change mine out on a regular basic,. I just toss the old one in the trash along with the old springs. I have said before, maintain the gun, expect 1000 reliable rounds. Ruger seems to have changed the LCP now roughly every three years. I think they know that is the business they want in the marketing of the gun. I think they know most will shoot the gun in that time 1000 rounds or less and be ready to get another when the new product is upgraded. Sell a product cheap and make the money on reoccurring revenue. Ruger puts these guns out like Krispy Creame doughnuts, millions of them. I bet their cost is around $50.00 to make one gun.
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    Yes. I understand some folks take what others would consider to be extraordinary measures in maintaining their LCPs. Not everyone will replace guide rods, springs and takedown pins at regular intervals. But I, for one, intend to follow your example. After all, for the miniscule price of those parts, what could it hurt? And the nice thing is, they're genuine Ruger parts!
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  5. #4 Re: What is the MTBF for the LCP with standard factory ammo? 
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    Quote Originally Posted by bld522 View Post
    Yes. I understand some folks take what others would consider to be extraordinary measures in maintaining their LCPs. Not everyone will replace guide rods, springs and takedown pins at regular intervals. But I, for one, intend to follow your example. After all, for the miniscule price of those parts, what could it hurt? And the nice thing is, they're genuine Ruger parts!
    Lol, I bet the average owner of a LCP does not even know they can or should be replaced. The Parts themselves are relatively cheap. Cheap insurance for a CCW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davevabch View Post
    Lol, I bet the average owner of a LCP does not even know they can or should be replaced. The Parts themselves are relatively cheap. Cheap insurance for a CCW.
    You can add me to the list. I had no idea those parts were available until you made me aware of it.

    I'm telling you, Dave, even though we don't always agree on everything, you've been indispensable to me. Don't let this go to your head, but your input alone has been worth the price of admission to the Elsie Pea forum for me. And I follow your lead far more often than not. :-)

    Oh wait! I forgot. It didn't cost me anything to join the Elsie Pea forum. Don't worry though. You're worth it anyway!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bld522 View Post
    You can add me to the list. I had no idea those parts were available until you made me aware of it.

    I'm telling you, Dave, even though we don't always agree on everything, you've been indispensable to me. Don't let this go to your head, but your input alone has been worth the price of admission to the Elsie Pea forum for me. And I follow your lead far more often than not. :-)

    Oh wait! I forgot. It didn't cost me anything to join the Elsie Pea forum. Don't worry though. You're worth it anyway!
    Thanks,BLD, but I would not listen to any my advice. I am probably wrong about 70% of the time. Mostly just personal opinion. I am full of that! That said, I have owned one since they came out and gone through many phases of likes and dislikes of the gun. I have put a lot of ammo down range with these guns and I listened closely to the pro's on this forum and learned from them along the way. There are a number of guys with much more experience than myself in all aspects of shooting, reloading, ownership of other guns etc. A great place to learn and put theories into place.
    The best way to learn about this gun in my opinion is to get out and shoot the heck out of it. Who cares if you burn it up, Ruger will replace it. If you learn to shoot this little gun well, with it's short barrel and snappy recoil, and you learn point and shoot skills, you have gained a lot. Accept the challenge the Little gun offers you. Master it!
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    Will do. By the way, I'll share a little story with you. Back in the day, I owned a bunch of handguns . . . one of which was a S&W Model 29 with a 4" barrel. I absolutely loved to shoot .44 Specials out of that big old N-frame. It shot as easy as .38 Specials out of a K-frame. But every once in awhile, I'd have a buddy of mine make up some .44 Magnum bear loads. His load would shoot a foot-long flame out of my 4-inch Model 29 and scare the living bejeezes out of everybody on the line. Now I can't imagine that an LCP would have the same kind of kick and muzzle flash with standard loads as my Model 29 had. But if it does, I'll have the time of my life with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bld522 View Post
    Will do. By the way, I'll share a little story with you. Back in the day, I owned a bunch of handguns . . . one of which was a S&W Model 29 with a 4" barrel. I absolutely loved to shoot .44 Specials out of that big old N-frame. It shot as easy as .38 Specials out of a K-frame. But every once in awhile, I'd have a buddy of mine make up some .44 Magnum bear loads. His load would shoot a foot-long flame out of my 4-inch Model 29 and scare the living bejeezes out of everybody on the line. Now I can't imagine that an LCP would have the same kind of kick and muzzle flash with standard loads as my Model 29 had. But if it does, I'll have the time of my life with it.
    There is a thread on another forum about words from the past. You just reminded me of one: bejeezes.
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    Words from the past, you say? I love oxymorons, puns, double entendres and the like. Shoot me a PM with a link to that thread when you have a moment and I'll check it out. :-)
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    I voted 0-100 rounds to match the mood of this board lately. I'm not sure what's up, did Ruger run a batch of bad guns or is there some hurt feelings? but the negativity has peaked with a few leading the charge.
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